tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post8004415864872640895..comments2023-04-28T12:26:59.829+01:00Comments on LAURA'S DIARY: Conference Against Human Trafficking - why YOU should be very angry.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08722688493644926880noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-42991115440160317322012-11-13T20:07:06.698+00:002012-11-13T20:07:06.698+00:00Absolutely. If you visit the Scot-PEP website ther...Absolutely. If you visit the Scot-PEP website there is a step by step guide as to how you can help. Thank you :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722688493644926880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-66654466202014020042012-11-13T19:41:40.025+00:002012-11-13T19:41:40.025+00:00Is there an online petition or something concrete ...Is there an online petition or something concrete we can do to support you against the abolitionist MSPs? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-5117187087178667382012-11-01T12:03:54.776+00:002012-11-01T12:03:54.776+00:00And neither should she but one of the hardest part...And neither should she but one of the hardest parts of any debate is to maintain your composure, it's a MUST do. <br /><br />Besides, you and I will be side by side at a similar event very soon methinks ;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722688493644926880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-74529674831853129642012-11-01T11:01:40.694+00:002012-11-01T11:01:40.694+00:00People have to start getting that Melrose comment ...People have to start getting that Melrose comment right, and in the forefront of their minds too. It's the worse example of "tell a lie long enough and it will become the truth" I ever saw. <br /><br />It has become "tell a lie long enough and your adversaries will forget to debunk it and argue with it instead". :o)<br /><br />As far as I can gather, there are no stats, anywhere in the world that genuinely claim 75% of sex workers began aged less than 14. <br /><br />Oh, and while we are on that subject, shouldn't somebody be asking why we have a society where EVEN ONE SINGLE young teen is desperate enough for the meas of survival to resort to selling sex? <br /><br />...and yet...I cannot find anyone asking that question anywhere...<br /><br />It is too easy to find a "bogeyman" to blame it on, but, as Melrose also, clearly shows, there is seldom, if ever a "bogeymen" in the mix...unless you count below subsistence youth welfare and social services that are often far from "fit for purpose". I wonder what would happen to the few young people Melrose did talk to, if you took their income away?<br /><br />They can't all be let join hands and roll backwards off the Erskine bridge...the voters wouldn't like it.<br /><br />Rhoda Grant's "nice" is the unkindest cut of all..it's a way to say:<br />"Look at me, I am a nice considerate person, with good manners, but what happens to you and your family does not qualify for my nice concern or even interest"<br /><br />She'll not get away with that if I ever come face to face with her.<br /><br /><br /><br />A Former Sex Workernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-77025178148767313692012-10-31T14:11:39.716+00:002012-10-31T14:11:39.716+00:00Thanks for your comments. Oh, and arithmetic was n...Thanks for your comments. Oh, and arithmetic was never my strong point, it's right up there with my cookery skills ;-)<br /><br />We didn't have the papers to hand and had all of thirty seconds to think too. Add to that, I actually didn't think she would have the audacity to wheel out Melrose and try and pass it off as representative of the entire industry. I nearly fell off my perch. <br /><br />If she was nice to me in the loo, it's because she's a nice person, and I'm not going to take that away from her. But she's still wrong, and determined to abolish prostitution. Of that I'm certain. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722688493644926880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-90713717548579192742012-10-31T13:56:14.729+00:002012-10-31T13:56:14.729+00:00No wonder she was nice to you in the loo, cos you ...No wonder she was nice to you in the loo, cos you both have Melrose wrong, even after all of the above is applied:<br /><br />"In fact, approximately two-thirds of participants had become involved before they were sixteen and of these, three-quarters (24) actually became involved when they were 14 or younger."<br /><br />*peering sternly over bifocals*<br /><br />ONE HUNDRED LINES EACH please ladies: <br /><br />3/4 of 2/3 = 1/2<br /><br />1/2 = 50%<br /><br />(Ah, well, I suppose when a lass cannae do basic arithmetic she hasnae much choice but become a floozy - or an MP? Sad, but there ye are...at last it keeps them off the dole.)<br /><br />Funny how they always gloss over the question:<br />"How will I earn the money to keep my family" isn't it?<br /><br />I used ask a much harsher question:<br />"What do you *think* happens to people when you take away their means of survival"<br /><br />But that reality was probably too harsh and propelled them into the denial zone...because no-one could ever answer it...but "How will I earn the money to keep my family" seems a reasonable enough, everyday question to me...in fact, I would have thought a lot of people ask it, in many contexts, all the time...<br /><br />Let's put all else aside for a minute...nobody has the moral right to demand legislation to take away anybody's income, for ANY reason until they can answer that one, simple question.<br /><br />I often wonder what happened to the women affected by this act and, of course their families:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mines_and_Collieries_Act_1842<br /><br />They made it illegal for women to work in mines because it was bad for them, no-one bothered to ask whether trying to live without any money at all would be better for them. I always wonder what happened to them, and their children. I doubt if it was anything good. 180 years later nobody seems to have bothered to document it, or answer the question:<br />"How will I earn the money to keep my family"<br /><br />...but you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs and NO WAY can any civilised society justify subjecting women to the danger and indignity of working in the mines (particularly if they insist on taking most of their clothes off, which was perhaps the most significant issue)...can you?<br /><br />But there is always one:<br />http://www.womeninmining.org.uk/<br /><br />Or two:<br />http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1964420<br /><br />Le plus qui ce change, le plus qui c'est la meme chose...<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />A Former Sex Workernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-40923343999329810192012-10-31T10:44:12.372+00:002012-10-31T10:44:12.372+00:00Rhoda has discredited herself, in spectacular fash...Rhoda has discredited herself, in spectacular fashion. She didn't need our help ;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722688493644926880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-74219589875332065882012-10-31T10:42:53.148+00:002012-10-31T10:42:53.148+00:00Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to ent...Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to enter into a full and frank debate, as you say the opportunity to answer them back just wasn't there, more's the pity. Thanks for your comment :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722688493644926880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-63166235771830516872012-10-31T09:46:38.245+00:002012-10-31T09:46:38.245+00:00What is the research Rhoda Refers to. Have you a l...What is the research Rhoda Refers to. Have you a link. I have this reference to a Margaret Melrose paper on under age prostitutes, of which 75% started before 14. http://www.women.it/cyberarchive/files/melrose.htm<br /><br />To me the most important point was it was a study on underage prostitutes, those who had started before their 18th birthday. To use that statistic to say 75 percent of prostitutes start at under 14 is a lie.<br /><br />This lie can be used to totally discredit Rhoda. Why would anyone believe her, and her plans on prostitution when they can see how disingenuous she is.<br /><br />What was Margaret Melroses's solution to underage prostitution, it was look at eradicating poverty and funding social services. Who does Margaret blame for people entering prostitution at an early age, New Labour and their policies on minimum wage, housing allowances, and on social services.<br /><br />Were there mention of pimps in the article, no. Research in the US showed that 10% of underage sex workers had pimps, 90% didn't. So I don't belive Gunnilla when she says following the clients will lead to the organisers. Lets also face it the police know who run the agencies and brothels already.<br /><br />So Trish Godman showed her true colours, by stating that you will be breaking the law. So she is not there to rescue you, but to punish you, by depriving you of your clients and locking you up in prison. I thought this proposed legislation was only about depriving you of your earnings.<br />elrondhttp://www.elrondmiddleengland.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-88602584093686001592012-10-31T07:14:53.035+00:002012-10-31T07:14:53.035+00:00I would find that type of conference extremely irr...I would find that type of conference extremely irritating. I guess there is only time for exchange of a few sound bites, rather than a solid, back and forth debate of the issues in a controlled environment. Unfortunately, when people are talking nonsense, it does take time to dismantle their arguements and this is rarely available. Keep it going. C&G. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-43423711078148370602012-10-30T23:56:13.367+00:002012-10-30T23:56:13.367+00:00Cheers ! Can't wait to read yours. <3Cheers ! Can't wait to read yours. <3Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722688493644926880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12926563977114746.post-73742770056647068032012-10-30T23:43:42.615+00:002012-10-30T23:43:42.615+00:00Ha! An excellent overview of the day, Laura. <3...Ha! An excellent overview of the day, Laura. <3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com